Progresif or regresif?

Progresif has always seem to me to have a good marketing push behind their brand however some “truths” from their past do not seem to hold true anymore and these days such that I do refer to them as “a marketing company with a telco” as I read somewhere (probably from some random Reddit thread on /r/brunei)

Their brand and marketing image has been going on for a while but I noticed it around the time of their launch of the new mobile and home broadband plans in March 2020. I did like that they had memorable summaries and tag lines for their products that poked against the competition as seen in these captures of their old website

  • “No throttling”
  • “No 24 month contract”
  • “Only pay for what you use”
  • “No fine print”
  • “No contract”

Screenshot of Progresif mobile plan page from March 2020

Screenshot from Progresif’s fibre plan page from September 2020

During that launch of new offer from the telcos they had this published the following with memorable quotes such as

  • “…find the real differences when you read the fine print”
  • “Remember, the first to eat sometimes burns their tongue”
  • “We’ve got ONE simple, innovative and affordable plan”

They even had a video advertising just before their Feb 2020 relaunch which pushed their features and philosophies (screenshot below). Some things we weird like “To us, genius means it simple keeping” which is nonsensical enough that in one of my group chats, we likes to reference “Simple keeping” periodically

All in all, I like some of the ethos and tag lines and messaging they were trying to convey. But as with all marketing there is always the hidden aspects that it likes to leave out.

  • Like the “No throttling” tagline, meant that if you used data beyond your quota, you’d have just no Internet. Depending on the situation this can be more problematic than the typical “bill shock” term that gets thrown around
  • The “No fine prints” I presume was trying to convey the message that things are clear enough in their simple definitions of their products that you didn’t need to dig into fine print to see “surprises”. While I’m not sure what jab it could be making to its competition with that, I feel that the ethos hasn’t held up over the years and as always, there will always be fine print

Encounters with the fine print

Fibre pricing

This happened when I was thinking of upgrading to their 1TB Fibre plan in December 2024 based on the promo pricing as shown in the screenshot below

I thought the promo meant that you’d get the promo cost for their entire duration of the subscription. But I found out that was not the case when I was at the counter trying to upgrade. I was told that

  • In order to get the promo price you needed an 18 month contract
  • And you’d only get the price for 12 months and then it reverts back to the original pricing
  • There is no mention of this on the main page and digging in a bit now, I can see some mention on their Fibre support page

What are the current on-going promotions for Progresif Fibre?
Our 1TB Progresif Fibre plans will be offered at a promotional price from 29 February 2024 to 31 March 2025. Sign up during the promotion period and enjoy a discount on your plan for 12 months.

  • But it has mention of the contract
  • Also from the screenshot we can see promo prices for 550GB and the support page does not mention that, so is that promo price the same 12 out of 18 months? I bet there is more “fine print” to be had

Yo! top-ups

I have a friend who is on their Yo! Prepaid and complained that their top-up validity kept on expiring before the 90 days stated in the app (screenshot below from September 2023)

And if you look up the Yo support docs it does mention this the difference so the app is/was incorrect (unsure if this has changed since)

How long is my Top Up valid for? 
$5 Top Up is valid for 30 days. All other denominations for $6 above are valid for 90 days.

There is currently no mention of regular credit top up on the Yo! home page let alone credit top up time validity. And having different duration for different amount certainly fits into the “fine print”

Contracts

  • It was previously stated “No 24 month contract” for mobile and “No contract” for Fibre
  • “No 24 month contract” for mobile general still to hold true
    • Generally no contract for typical prepaid/postpaid lines
    • But 12/18 month contract for MORE
  • “No contact” also holds true for Fibre
    • It is an option but you can get discounts with a contract needing to read the fine print (or print that isn’t even listed and only find out when talking to them)

From Postpaid One Mobile support page

Is there a fixed contract duration when signing up for a Postpaid One Mobile Plan?

No, there are no fixed period contracts for signing up to the Postpaid One Mobile. You may terminate any time you wish.

From MORE postpaid support page

Will I be under a contract when I sign up for the MORE plan?

No, however if you take up a 12-month or 18-month contract, you will be able to enjoy a lower price on your monthly plan.

From Fibre support page

Is there a contract duration when signing up to Progresif Fibre?

You have an option for;

  • No contract with one-time $100 installation fee, or
  • 12-month contract with free installation (U.P. $100) when you sign up to a 1TB, 2TB or ZOOM plan.

Summary

So I wish Progresif could go back to some of their “roots” of how I knew of them in the past. They had the spunky kid attitude and in general I do like the vibe and brand they have

But currently time and time again right now they just seem like a marketing company with a telco. I’ll wait for the day it is a telco company with good marketing

Nationwide WiFi no more?

Before UNN helped bring Imagine, DST and Progresif to a somewhat level playing field, Telbru had their TelBru WiFi hotspots that you could connect to and it used your existing quota

We can see remnants to this in this PDF on Imagine’s website

Free Access Service
TelBru WiFi Free Access Service (“Free Access Service”) is a complementary service made available by TelBru for the public at designated TelBru WiFi locations (also known as “TelBru WiFi Zones”).

Postpaid Service
TelBru WiFi Postpaid Service (“Postpaid Service”) allows you to access and utilize your Residential Broadband Plan subscription outside of your home at any TelBru WiFi Zones.

But unfortunately the current state of if seems to be that it is only available on Progresif if you’re able to get their support to set it up but hopefully this can change in the future. See below for my experience of each telco

Imagine

  • No longer available
  • Am an Imagine Dream broadband subscriber since December 2024
  • Previously Imagine had prominently mentioned on the website and even stated that it supported multiple devices as I detailed in “Brunei Telco Wars 2022” as shown in the screenshot below taken from the Wayback Machine from January 2023
  • But now it is no longer stated on the site and when I asked their support, they told me it is no longer available. I didn’t research too much before my migration as they were previously pretty open and upfront about it being available so I presumed it would have still be around so it’s pretty unfortunate
Screenshot of Imagine website from wayback machine stating

Progresif

  • Available (if you get through to the right people)
  • I was a Progresif Fibre subscriber from September 2022 to December 2024
  • It may take a while to get set up though as I had multiple discussions to try find out about it. One person was convinced that it would only work if I had a Progresif mobile subscription which I did not have. Only after multiple follow ups with their support I managed to get it set up. It seems they had to liaise with UNN to get my account working
  • Currently their support page mentions that it is a feature
Screenshot of Progresif support page stating the following:
 
Can I use my Progresif Fibre data on the Nationwide WiFi?

Yes, you can use your Progresif Fibre to access to Nationwide WiFi. You can login with your Progresif ID (Mobile number), Password and Service number (Fixed line number).

DST

  • Never available
  • I was a DST Infinity subscriber from March 2020 (soon after their launch) to September 2022
  • Whenever I asked DST support, they all didn’t seem to know about it or some people just saying it was not supported
  • If you try to connect to DST WiFi hotspots there would be a link to this PDF file which states the following but the MyDST credentials never worked

Customer’s MyDST credentials will be used to log-on to the DST WiFi Service and therefore the user will be fully responsible for whom these credentials are shared with.

Brunei Telco Wars 2022

September 1st brought a UNN upgrade and now our telcos DST, Imagine and Progresif have updated their home broadband plans. Below is a summary of the changes for each telco and the latest plans

Pick My Provider https://bruneigeekmeet.com/pmp updated to help pick which provider could suit your needs (view old plans here)

Summary

DST

  • Straightforward upgrade: same price but with either more data (100GB) or faster speed
  • Good
    • Webpage seems to have all necessary information
    • Simple 5 price points and decide if you want more data / more speed
  • Bad
    • 2 year contract
    • No Nationwide WiFi
  • Ugly
    • No real “Unlimited” plan as all plans are throttled after a certain data usage
    • Extra data only being 100GB feels small and doesn’t feel like it differentiates enough between
    • Message is confusing
      • saying all plans have 100Mbps but there are plans with less than that
      • most plan details show a breakdown based on 100Mbps then “Other plans” then “Unlimited” instead of showing the 5 price points

Imagine

  • Upgrades in general get extra data and extra speed benefits
  • Good
    • Actual unlimited plans
    • Nationwide WiFi and explicitly mentioning multiple device support
  • Bad
    • 1 or 2 year contract
    • Unclear throttling info for data based plans (should be same as previous of limited to 1Mbps)
  • Ugly
    • Dowgranding plans once contract runs out and not directly mentioned on main page
    • Online chat system is not great and got no response (previous chat system was better)

Progresif

  • Consolidated plans typically with more data / speed at same price
  • Good
    • No contract needed
    • Actual unlimited plans
    • Nationwide WiFi access
    • Has 100GB for $10 data add-on with long 60 days validity
  • Bad
    • Some lower plans now pay more
    • Unclear throttling behaviour for data based plans (had to ask them as not on website)
      • no Internet for “Entry-Level” plans
      • limited to 512kbps/1Mbps for the rest (was told 2 different values from 2 different sources)
    • $10 line fee now for all plans
    • Online chat system is not great and got no response from multiple messages sent
  • Ugly
    • Now with excluding $10 line fee
      • Feels like they are the same as competition and lost an edge
      • Adds confusion for previous customers where it was previously included in the plan
      • So it is less “Simple keeping”(one of their advertised phrases in the past)

Details

DST

  • Comparing to previous plans
    • In general same price but with either more data (100GB) or faster speed (so you only get 1 benefit)
    • Exception: Infinity 38 will get faster speeds when choosing more data (previously 20Mbps now 50Mbps)
  • 5 price points and each has an option for supersize (more data) / superspeed (faster)
    • I did not understand this until I saw the following sign at a store

Imagine

  • Comparing to existing plans
    • Upgrade gives 100GB more with faster speeds at same price
    • Exception: 1.6TB data plans quota has no data change but $4/month cheaper
  • When plans are out of contract you get less data / slower speed
    • Based on their Instagram post as could not find an info on their website
      • 800GB quota and lower: less data
      • 1.6TB data: less speed (100Mbps -> 50Mbps, 200Mbps -> 100Mbps) and $4/month extra
      • Unlimited data: plans less speed (100Mbps -> 50Mbps, 200Mbps -> 100Mbps)
      • To keep 200Mbps extra $200/month
    • There is mention of less data in Broadband FAQ but no details
      > WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF MY CONTRACT PERIOD ENDS?
      > You will automatically be moved to a no contract plan, but with less data. There will be no changes to your monthly rental. To continue enjoying more data, simply renew your contract to 12 or 24 months.
      > HOW LONG CAN I STAY UNDER A NO CONTRACT PLAN?
      > You can stay for as long as you wish. However, you will enjoy more benefits i.e. more data or savings when you renew your contract.
  • Nationwide WiFi available
  • Has real unlimited connection
  • Data based plans should throttle on exceeding data
    • No mention in website, had to ask in person and they did not know the speed
    • Likely 1Mbps as was previously
  • 1 or 2 year contract
  • Online communications not so great
    • Thier ima chat system has had a downgrade since the last time I used it
      • Says “Type a message” but you have to click buttons as they have disabled actual chat?
      • Personal identifiable information is sent in the clear in the address bar
      • Never got a response
    • Instagram direct message reply took 23 hours

Progresif

  • Consolidating multiple plans to single new plan
  • Comparing to previous plans
    • In general twice speed and slightly cheaper
    • Lower tier previous plans now pay more
      • Previously: One Home 50GB @ 20Mbps for $30 / One Home 250GB @ 20Mbps for $38
      • Now: Fibre 125GB @ 50Mbps for $35 / Fibre 250GB @ 50Mbps for $45 (Data add on 100GB for $10 valid for 60 days)
  • Now all prices **exclude** $10 line cost
  • No contract required
  • Nationwide WiFi available
    • Was told in store that it is only for a single device and multiple devices can be registered but needs to be done in store
  • Online communications not so great
    • Thier “Ask Tia” chat system has never given me a response
    • Prior to this recent upgrade it just said “Message sent” so I presumed it was an email and I would get a reply. Never received one
    • This time around it loads a chat interface but still I never got a respons
    • Instagram direct message reply took 31 hours

Pick My Provider

Ever since we got the revamp internet plans from DST, Imagine and Progresif (which I call the #BruneiTelcoWars) thanks to the work of UNN there have been several comparisons around and now is my turn with Pick My Provider https://bruneigeekmeet.com/pmp


Features

  • Find top 6 cheapest plans based on expected data usage
  • Shows top 3 cheapest per provider
  • Supports some filtering (e.g. minimum speed / contract)
  • Search Home Broadband (i.e. fibre), Mobile and Mobile Pay-As-You-Go
  • Displays information in tables for quick scanning of information
  • Plans are linked to source telco for more details
  • Copy link to current search to share with others

Most things are there and one current known issue is that Mobile Pay-As-You-Go search does not currently look at the number of days the data is valid: so a search for 1GB can show an addon that is only valid for 1 day. Hope to fix this one day down the road